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« on: March 29, 2010, 02:25:21 PM »
That's all I need to say.
Here's the link - http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/29/2011-ford-mustang-gt-first-drive/
Here's the text - For pictures click the link.
I like the 7K R/L. That's almost up to my 64 Fairlane's R/L.
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First Drive: 2011 Ford Mustang GT changes the game
by Jonny Lieberman (RSS feed) on Mar 29th 2010 at 12:00PM

The reborn 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS is the 2010 Ford Mustang GT's most obvious competitor (obviously). While the Camaro is certainly a head turner, it's just not that great of an all around performance car. However, despite the 2010 Mustang GT coming out on top in many comparisons against its crosstown rival, one fact is undeniable: When it comes to power, the Camaro SS kicked the Mustang GT's butt up and down the block. Across the drag strip, too. The 6.2-liter LS3-equipped SS (manual only, as automatic Camaros get the weaker L99 motor) produces a screaming 426 horsepower and 420 rumbling pound-feet of torque, enough mojo to embarrass the 2010 Mustang GT's relatively wimpy 4.6-liter V8 with its 315 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. True, the Mustang handled better, rode better, had a much better interior and cost less, but at the end of the day we're talking muscle cars. Gumption matters. Chevy was king. Ford had to act.

And act it did. Meet the 2011 Ford Mustang GT, or as everyone is already calling it, the 5.0. That's right, Ford is offering enthusiasts an honest to goodness 5.0-liter V8 (302 cubic inches, baby! Check out our Deep Dive for all the technical mumbo jumbo) in the 2011 Mustang GT. As we're sure you know by now, thanks to some fancy breathing, the all new small-block produces 412 hp and 390 lb-ft of torque. That's less than the Camaro, sure, but remember that the Mustang is lighter than the Chevy by a good 300 pounds. Besides, it's looking like Ford has decided to underrate the 5.0's output by about 30 ponies for who knows what reason. Meaning that while Ford might be using invisible ink, the Mustang's got the Camaro beat on paper. But what about in the real world? Make the jump to find out.

While the new 2011 Ford Mustang V6 is a good car, the 5.0 is great. In a single model year, Ford has manged to address all of the 2010 Mustang GT's shortcomings. Besides the brand spanking new motor (which really is the big story), the Blue Oval boys made a number of other changes. It's going to take a well trained eye to spot any visual differences between the 2010 and 2011 models, but there are differences. First off, the aluminum pony in the grill has been lightened a shade. In addition, the front and rear fascias are slightly tweaked. There's a new lower spoiler and air dam up front and the rear wheels now have tire spats. All of the exterior changes plus an underbody aeroshield add up to a four-percent more aerodynamic car, and help this 412-hp brute achieve a very respectable 26 mpg on the highway. Also, let's not forget the big, shiny 5.0 badges. A1A Beach Front Avenue has been put on notice!

Changes you can't see include a whole host of NVH improvements, namely rear wheel liners, eight sound absorbers and hood liner insulation that all add up to a surprisingly quiet vehicle. Some might say too quiet as you can't hear the 5.0 burble, but we'll disagree. Overhead cam engines don't really burble the way cam-in-block mills do anyway. Put it this way, day-to-day livability has been greatly increased. Besides, once you open the V8's taps, the cabin is quickly filled with the sort of soundtrack that gearheads dream about. Ford has retained the 2010 Mustang GT's sound resonators, and the noise is even more blissful in 2011. In fact, above 3,500 rpm you're treated to a very finely balanced stereo mix of induction and exhaust noise. Trust us, you'll love it once you get on it.

Speaking of getting on it, the 7,000 rpm redline begs you to do just that. An all-new six-speed (finally!) manual further encourages you to bash the motor all you like. There's also a new six-speed automatic that's okay (though it does lack paddle shifters), but we spent exactly 17.5 seconds driving the auto version (that's two blasts down an eighth-mile drag strip), so you'll need to do your own research if you're not interested in rowing your own. If you are, the new six-speed manual is pretty good, though we'd prefer a short-throw kit. We also had occasional trouble coming down into second and/or fourth. We suspect this is mostly due to the shift lever's long throw, which again would be fixed by a short throw kit. That said, the new transmission doesn't seem to mind abuse.

The same can be said for the brakes. We drove both the stock brake GT and the Brembo-kitted version. As far as the regular brakes go, Ford saw fit to provide a bigger brake booster and for the first time in my car reviewing career, I have nothing negative whatsoever to say about Ford brakes. They're actually pretty good, and the Brembos are that much better. If you spend a lot of time hooning it up on windy canyon roads or at the track, go for the ain't-gonna-fade 14-inch Brembos. If you just like roasting fools at stop lights, the standard brakes are more than fine.

Time to put it all together. I found myself actually saying, "This engine's a pot of honey." Out loud, with another human being in the car. Why would anyone make such a ridiculous statement? Probably because the new motor really is a pot of honey, specifically when you're in fourth gear at 4,000 rpm and you bury the throttle. Turns out that 4,000 rpm is when peak torque (390 lb-ft) happens and the 5.0-liter V8 pulls like a jet airliner. Outside of the GT500 or a very breathed-upon Roush/Saleen, we've never experienced this kind of at-speed acceleration in a Mustang. Very impressive, and more than just impressive, a bit intoxicating. From a standstill, the 5.0 is every bit as superb. We won't be surprised if and when the 2011 Mustang GT breaks into the high 12s running the quarter-mile with a trap in the 112-mph range. Ford went all "no comment" when asked about performance figures, but again we'll speculate that 0-60 mph is probably mid-4s, which is quick by any method of accounting.

Our one serious gripe with the new V6 Mustang was the floaty front end, especially at high speeds. No such gripe with the GT. Not only is the front of the V8 much stiffer than its smaller, lighter sibling, but the entire car has been hardened by 15 percent compared to the 2010 model. Not only does this help handling, but triple-digit stability is impressive, words we thought we'd never type about a run-of-the-mill Mustang GT. But here we are.

Also improved for 2011 is the GT's handling. 2010 was something of a breakout year for the Mustang, as Ford finally committed itself to building a Mustang that goes left and right as well as it goes straight. Not only is the 2011 Mustang GT happy to turn into a corner, once you're flirting around with the apex you won't find yourself making loads of corrections. Put another way, the suspension is able to handle whatever you throw at it, and the steering feel is good enough that you only have to measure and cut once. As far as the never ending live rear end vs. independent suspension argument goes, we're saying the following: The 2011 Ford Mustang GT sports the very best solid rear axle in the world. We'd rather have the best solid axle than a mediocre multi-point rear. Hint, hint, Chevy. 'Nuff said.

The bottom line is this: Ford is done messing around. With the release of the 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 there are no more "Yeah, but..." reasons to buy any other pony car. Only serious Mopar-philes would choose the drastically more expensive and substantially worse Dodge Challenger SRT-8 over the Mustang GT. Aside from looks, we can't think of a single area where the similarly priced but slightly more expensive Chevy Camaro SS beats the Mustang. Speed, handling, soundtrack, brakes, interior (the GT is actually creeping into Audi levels of interior sophistication look at those seats!), fit and finish you name it, the Mustang's the superior sports car.

Speaking of Audi, the 5.0 makes the 354-hp S5 look like an overpriced slowpoke. We've driven both cars in anger and the 2011 Mustang GT is not only faster, but is actually rear-wheel drive, not a FWD platform fitted with Quattro all-wheel drive. Want us to go even further? We'd prefer the Mustang GT to a BMW 650i. Sure, the BMW has dash leather and... iDrive. But (again), the GT makes more power (the 650i manages 360 hp), handles better and is quieter unless you're really belting the throttle. Also, Sync's a whole lot better than iDrive, even the much improved new iDrive. Not only that, but the GT's new 5.0-liter V8 engine is in another league than (previous) competitors like the Nissan 370Z and Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8. Getting the point? In 2011, the Mustang GT is the car to beat. Welcome back, 5.0.


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Re: 2011
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 03:04:20 PM »
My brother is a Camaro guy, and I drove his a few months ago.  It certainly has plenty of power. 

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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2010, 01:03:26 AM »
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Re: 2011
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2010, 01:39:13 AM »
Obviously, I am a Mustang fan.  But tests have shown that the new Camaro is still a competitor to the new Mustang GT. 









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Re: 2011
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2010, 10:46:11 AM »
I saw a new Camero (it's a French word for "pal" - remember Pal jockstraps?) going around a corner. The driver downshifted and the engine backfired - twice. I was not impressed, but I was amused. Remember, it's a product from "Government Motors".
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2010, 09:01:54 AM »
Well, not only for the looks I'd still prefer a Mustang. The Camero has a faaaar too big grill and it doesn't fit in with the overall front design. The Mustang's grill is elegantly blended into the front with the classic logo which reminds us of the good ol' times. Also, correct me if am wrong, the camero is a bit evil looking. While the Mustang 2011 has a warmth nearly protecting look for me. Maybe because It reminds me of KIT ;) I am refering to those 2 pictures:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://2011cars.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/2011-mustang.jpg&imgrefurl=http://2011cars.net/tag/2011-ford-mustang-v6-makes-305-hp/&h=533&w=800&sz=129&tbnid=E3iuaJumnBu7rM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmustang%2B2011&zoom=1&q=mustang+2011&usg=__p8jvIMuLzlfvABLRzLbIU8CDGZA=&sa=X&ei=rAu3TNa6I4L7lweg3uzADA&ved=0CCMQ9QEwAg

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.edweidlich.com/images/NY/camero.jpg&imgrefurl=http://edweidlich.com/Nu_York.html&h=2448&w=3264&sz=1501&tbnid=9SoRkyQoARDAgM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcamero&zoom=1&q=camero&usg=__2YIZY8-mJKguVp8z3wpw7w1it_I=&sa=X&ei=oQu3TKGqOoSBlAf759C_DA&ved=0CCEQ9QEwAQ

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Re: 2011
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2010, 04:52:53 PM »
I was sitting in the doctor's waiting room today, and was reading a "Car and Driver" magazine where the new 5.0 Mustang GT was compared to the new BMW sports car, and they came in neck and neck.  The difference being is that the BMW cost 65,500  Where as the GT was priced at 40,000.  I don't think the German engineering is a damn bit better than motor city today.  You just pay for the name. 

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2010, 06:28:02 AM »
Well once again I have to say the Mustang kills in looks no matter the performance. The huge front window with it's sexy curve is more like from a spaceship then from a car. The elegant rims blend perfectly into the sides and the nose is as aerodynamic as it gets. In comparision the new BMW Z4
looks almost edgy. To many holes and denches. A too small grill and silly looking lights. I'm refering to these two pictures:


http://www.2011mustang.org/images/2011_mustang_03.jpg
http://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2011-z4/800x600/wallpaper_05.htm

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Re: 2011
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2010, 08:45:25 AM »
I have to agree.

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Re: 2011
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2010, 12:51:38 PM »
So much live the Mustang  :)

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Re: 2011
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 11:02:19 AM »
The "backfire" could have been traction control. When it kicks in in my 07 mustang it kinda makes a pop noise like that. Pretty gay so I make sure traction control is always off.

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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 01:21:28 PM »
Well once again I have to say the Mustang kills in looks no matter the performance. The huge front window with it's sexy curve is more like from a spaceship then from a car. The elegant rims blend perfectly into the sides and the nose is as aerodynamic as it gets. In comparision the new BMW Z4
looks almost edgy. To many holes and denches. A too small grill and silly looking lights. I'm refering to these two pictures:

http://www.2011mustang.org/images/2011_mustang_03.jpg
http://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2011-z4/800x600/wallpaper_05.htm

It's a Mustang II with a Pacer window at the wrong end. 

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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2010, 07:09:32 PM »
I was sitting in the doctor's waiting room today, and was reading a "Car and Driver" magazine where the new 5.0 Mustang GT was compared to the new BMW sports car, and they came in neck and neck.  The difference being is that the BMW cost 65,500  Where as the GT was priced at 40,000.  I don't think the German engineering is a damn bit better than motor city today.  You just pay for the name.

Hey Soaring I read the same article today in the doctors office and share your thoughts. The major difference the BMW had was in the frame of the cars. Otherwise they were toe to toe in all catagories. . . . .  8)

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Re: 2011
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2010, 01:18:48 AM »
I hope they will customize their incoming models. I'm looking for something that has a vintage part/s on it.

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Re: 2011
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2010, 03:23:30 PM »
That concept Mustang looks awesome, love the color too.



Well, not only for the looks I'd still prefer a Mustang. The Camero has a faaaar too big grill and it doesn't fit in with the overall front design. The Mustang's grill is elegantly blended into the front with the classic logo which reminds us of the good ol' times. Also, correct me if am wrong, the camero is a bit evil looking. While the Mustang 2011 has a warmth nearly protecting look for me. Maybe because It reminds me of KIT ;) I am refering to those 2 pictures:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://2011cars.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/2011-mustang.jpg&imgrefurl=http://2011cars.net/tag/2011-ford-mustang-v6-makes-305-hp/&h=533&w=800&sz=129&tbnid=E3iuaJumnBu7rM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmustang%2B2011&zoom=1&q=mustang+2011&usg=__p8jvIMuLzlfvABLRzLbIU8CDGZA=&sa=X&ei=rAu3TNa6I4L7lweg3uzADA&ved=0CCMQ9QEwAg

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.edweidlich.com/images/NY/camero.jpg&imgrefurl=http://edweidlich.com/Nu_York.html&h=2448&w=3264&sz=1501&tbnid=9SoRkyQoARDAgM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcamero&zoom=1&q=camero&usg=__2YIZY8-mJKguVp8z3wpw7w1it_I=&sa=X&ei=oQu3TKGqOoSBlAf759C_DA&ved=0CCEQ9QEwAQtirescarspartswheelsbrakes

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Re: 2011
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2011, 08:39:24 AM »
Hi,
  Today I got to see a new 5.0 Mustang.  What a car! I didn't test drive it or anything but from what I have read, this thing has world class performance. Of course the
nay sayers still talk it down, what with being an American car and all. But the performance figures both for acceleration, top speed and handling speak
for themselves. The car is very well built.. Better then it's Japanese contemporaries. Thought I'd never say that one, but Ford builds a better car now. I am in the
market for a new or newer car and have looked at a lot. All I can say is that Ford has been quietly improving while the others from Japan and other foreign lands
have been riding along on just their names for the past 5 years. The new 5.0 is not cheap. The one I looked at was $37K. I guess that doesn't sound like much to many,
but to me it's a lot of money. I heard that top end is very high and is actually limited. They also had the new V6 car there and I was told it has twin turbochargers. Have to do some
research on that one, but it looks like Ford is pulling out all the stops in the performance aspects of this new Mustang. What is a real kicker is that EPA mileage ratings are higher then for the
old V6 and the new 5.0L V8 shows better then the older 4.6L. Go figure. All I know is that I am very impressed with all Ford's new cars from the Fiesta to the Mustang.
I have a feeling my next daily driver will be a Ford and not another Honda. I like Hondas, but the newest ones leave me flat while there isn't a Ford car model that I feel I couldn't live with.
I'd love to see them come out with a turbocharged Fiesta 2 dr hatch. Now THAT would be a heck of a sneaker sized rocket to compliment my '90 5.0L!

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Re: 2011
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2011, 08:08:15 PM »


this is a great article and very detailed...thanks
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      For whatever reason, Ford seems to be pulling out all the stops. It shows in their showrooms. They don't have a crap load of models and
different configurations to choose from, but what they do have are sound, well built cars with flair. They always built a good pickup in the "F" series.
Now they are again building good cars. Just wanted to let others know that if they are thinking a new Japanese or even European car as a daily grocery getter, they owe it to themselves
to check out the newest crop of Fords. I'll probably stick with my present car for another year. What with the down sizing of my income thanks to the loss of a good
paying job and the lower pay of my new job. But, by next year, I will have to do something since my present daily driver (an '01 Accord coupe) is really getting long in the tooth.
Believe it or not, the Accord, with it's 4 cyl engine, doesn't get much better fuel economy then my 1990 5.0L Mustang sedan. I really like the style and feel of the '01 Accord coupe, but
I don't like their new ones. The new Mustang feels more like my '01 Accord then the new Accord does. Go figure. The new Mustang is almost the exact same size too. Both dwarf my '90 LX 5.0L. It is funny to look at how big the suspension and drive train parts are on the old 90 in comparison to a lot of the newer cars. Guess that's why I see so many of them with between 150 and 200K miles on them still cruising around down here.

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Re: 2011
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2011, 07:41:22 AM »
After I find several things in the first couple paragraphs that were, to say the least , misleading, I just didn't read on.
The article said. " When it comes to power, the Camaro SS kicked the Mustang GT's butt up and down the block."  Well lets see, Just how much did that SS cost? The 11 GT is less than $30,000.  At least mine was.  So what ever the Camaro was above the $30,000 price tag would have to go into a mustang, like a Roush or a Shelby, after all it's ok to race a 425 hp camaro against a 412 hp GT so it should also be ok to race a 444 hp Boss against the SS, Right?

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Re: 2011
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2011, 09:41:54 PM »
Well once again I have to say the Mustang kills in looks no matter the performance. The huge front window with it's sexy curve is more like from a spaceship then from a car. The elegant rims blend perfectly into the sides and the nose is as aerodynamic as it gets in auto parts. In comparision the new BMW Z4
looks almost edgy. To many holes and denches. A too small grill and silly looking lights. I'm refering to these two pictures:


http://www.2011mustang.org/images/2011_mustang_03.jpg
http://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2011-z4/800x600/wallpaper_05.htm


I totally agree, Mustang is pretty sexy compared to other cars and the parts is good too. I am driving mine for 2 years now and I did not have any problem at all only the upgrades.

 

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