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Gas Prices
« on: March 11, 2008, 10:39:44 PM »
Are you guys worried about the price of gas and diesel these days.  I am.....
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Re: Gas Prices
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2008, 09:06:53 AM »
 Yes, we are paying over $4.00 a gallon here in Canada. An used car dealer was talking on the local news yesterday and said that 90% of his car sales where for economic small import cars. People are selling their SUVs and vans to buy them. I think it's time for Ford to wake up and instead of building factories in Eastern Europe to reduce the cost of their cars, they should think about offering economic models that will compete with the little Hondas and Toyotas. That's where they can make money.
 They have a cheap way to do that with their European Ford Fiestas and Kas, what are they waiting for? GM could also offer their Opel Corsa? They will be the cars most people will buy if the gas price keeps rising.

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Re: Gas Prices
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2008, 02:04:53 PM »
Here is an email I got from Jim and some tips that will save you some bucks down the road.  I don't buy gas from any of the major companies, but Raceway which is a Wal-Mart sponsored company here in central Texas.  They are always the cheapest around, and my cars run just fine with their gas. 

 I got this e-mail March 12, 2008. It’s mostly true – except it’s little out of date as oil prices are in the $108 range. As a disclaimer: boycotts don’t work. In this country, they never have and never will. Second point: federal, state and local taxes comprise about 30 percent of the cost of a gallon of gas – oil company’s profits are about 8 percent – transportation cost are about 5 percent – the rest goes to the countries that own the ground where the oil is located. Who is the largest exporter of oil to the United States? It’s Canada. Number 2 is Mexico.
  Now to the message.
 
  I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline, but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.
  Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.
  Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening - your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products play an important role.
  A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
   When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at   the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.
  One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.
   Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT FILL UP. Most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.
 
DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!
 
WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON
 
  Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS. 
  Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.
  Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends.
  I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.
 
 
  These companies import Middle Eastern oil: 
Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels
  Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel)
  Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
Sunoco..................0 barrels
Conoco..................0 barrels
Sinclair.................0 barrels
BP/Phillips............0 barrels
Hess.......................0 barrels
ARCO....................0 barrels
  If you go to www.Sunoco.com, you will get a list of the station locations near you. Unfortunately they are not in Washington.
  All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.
  But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers. It's really simple to do.
  Now, don't wimp out at this point.... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
  I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) – and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!
  If it goes one level further, you guessed it - THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!
  Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. How long would all that take?
 

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Re: Gas Prices
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2008, 03:00:47 PM »
if the country would only listen to dr paul its all about our dollar not the price of gas

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Re: Gas Prices
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 03:55:43 PM »
Not too many folks are listening to Ron Paul ,Stephen.  He is way too far right, and not even a Republican.  BTW, did you read the paper today?   McCain is definitely a natural born citizen.  His father was stationed in the Panama canal zone in 1936 when he was born, and when he was born, the panama canal was a territory of the United States.  That argument was settled when the great governor of Arizona ran for president (Barry Goldwater)  and was legally considered a natural born citizen, even though when he was born in Arizona, Arizona was a territory of the United States. 
Sorry bud......McCain will be our next Republican candidate for president.

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Re: Gas Prices
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2008, 11:27:28 PM »
Not too many folks are listening to Ron Paul ,Stephen.  He is way too far right, and not even a Republican.  BTW, did you read the paper today?   McCain is definitely a natural born citizen.  His father was stationed in the Panama canal zone in 1936 when he was born, and when he was born, the panama canal was a territory of the United States.  That argument was settled when the great governor of Arizona ran for president (Barry Goldwater)  and was legally considered a natural born citizen, even though when he was born in Arizona, Arizona was a territory of the United States. 
Sorry bud......McCain will be our next Republican candidate for president.



lmao thats funny right there, hes the most conservative and republican member of congress and 1billion times more conservative than flip-flop, liberal  mccain, the problem is hes to honest in fact john mccain is quoted in saying that paul is the most honest man in politics paul defends the platform hands down. so glen how do you feel about the huge eminent domain project to cut up texas with the superhighway?? hes the main person fighting for Texans maybe thats why he had an overwhelming turnout for his congressional seat what was it 3 or 4:1 against peden? and the panama canal was not a territory, it was under lease. he might not be popular with the older generation esp those scared of future attacks? but the military is overwhelming supportive and my generation of 18-30 from eveyone ive talked to http://www.youtube.com/v/jvqM5E1Yie4&hl=en

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Re: Gas Prices
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2008, 03:44:51 AM »
If he was electable, I would vote for him.  But, he's not. 

 

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