Author Topic: american muscle cars culture? does it exists? (Read 12352 times)

gieniu · « **on:** November 30, 2007, 06:21:05 AM »

hello!
I`m very new member, so treat me like a virgin

I`m a 25 year old Polish student, and I`m studying American Culture in Poland because I`m very interested in USA, but my favourites are MUSLCE CARS! and this is my problem, I`d like to write a work about American Muscle Cars Culture! I think there such thing, especially when I see such sites like this where people gather and share with their experience, passion and life connected to this idea! I`d be really gratefull if you were able to help mi find some books, magazines, materials, anything connected with the American Muscle Cars Culture! thanks a lot!

Gieniu

Thierry · « **Reply #1 on:** November 30, 2007, 09:27:27 AM »

Welcome to the forum and the muscle car world Gieniu

Why would you want books about muscle cars when you have much more information on the web? Your English seems very good and if you are looking for something specific maybe we can assist you finding the right websites.

gieniu · « **Reply #2 on:** November 30, 2007, 03:18:11 PM »

thanks for such early reply, I`m really glad! when speaking about my english, I have to say that I`m an English teacher, here in Poland

when speaking about the topic, the problem is that, my profesor on my University says that I can`t use only web pages:-( i must have some books! but what is more important, tell me, have you ever heard about American Muscles Cars Culture? have you met with such thing? Maybe I`ll show you, how I see, more or less, my work! at first, I want to get to know and show, if the culture of Muscle cars exists. how does it started, <Hemi Engine - Good Start:-D > some I`d like to show the icons of Muscle cars <I think it won`t be difficult:-) >, then I`d like to focus a little bit on The Way Motive! then, how and if, it influences on the Music/TV (especially the Films, the best films connected with this issue), has it influence on sport ( e.g. Dodge Daytona etc), great comes backs in the XXI century!!
this is more or less how I see my uniwersity work! if you can help me, please, be so kind and help me with my work!
I`M WAITING FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND TIPS

Thierry · « **Reply #3 on:** November 30, 2007, 05:12:18 PM »

Well, I am not sure what you mean by muscle car culture, I am myself an imported European in North America but the way I get it, is that it's a passion just like Italians have for a Ferrari. The difference is that a muscle car is an affordable high performance vehicle that can be accessed by the average population and can be used for racing. Some classic muscle cars cost more than a Ferrari or Lamborghini today but that was not always the case and you can still find a cheap powerful 3rd or 4th generation V8 Mustang or Camaro for the price of a Golf GTI in Poland.
Movies and TV series such as "Bullitt", "Cannonball", "Speedtrap", "Vanishing point" and "the Dukes of Hazard" certainly made muscle cars legendary but the opposite happened with movies like "Fast'n Furious" which started the trend of import Asian and European car enthusiasts for the younger generation in North America.
I hope others will give you their opinion and feel free to ask more questions.

Bossnutt · « **Reply #4 on:** November 30, 2007, 09:08:01 PM »

Thierry mentioned some great movies but he forgot a few.....The ORIGINAL Catch Me If You Can(1985), The Wrath, Two Lane Blacktop, American Graffitti, and Gone in 60 seconds (there are 3 versions all are good), to name a few more. Also I did some searching for you and found a few books that can be bought over the web. I hope these sites help you. I love the whole Muscle Car thing as well. Good luck with your project and be sure to let us know how it's going.

http://www.amazon.com/American-Muscle-Cars-Jim-Campisano/dp/1567991645

http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/muscle-car-information/how-muscle-cars-work6.htm

http://books.google.com/books?q=american+muscle+car+culture&source=citation&ots=S3_5xTbitC&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=bottom-3results

http://www.americanmusclecars.net/history.htm

http://musclecarmuseum.com/

Russ · « **Reply #5 on:** December 01, 2007, 10:20:13 AM »

Hey bro let me say Milo mi. I am glad that even not American that you have that passion. I hope ou find this site to be more than worthy for all info an needs. the guys on here are very helpful and have a vast amount of knowledge. STANG OUT

gieniu · « **Reply #6 on:** December 02, 2007, 09:09:39 AM »

woooow!!! Thanks a lot for such huge inetersting of my problem!! I`m really astonished

I`ve seen the sites you`ve sent me, and they`re OK! but you know, I`M GREEDY SO I NEED MORE

but seriously speaking, they`re ok, but if you can send me more, it`ll be great! for me, I would write my project bassing only on these sites you sent me, and it`ll be ok, but my professor says that I need more or less 30 books $:-\$ for me it`s stupidity, but you know, he doesn`t FEEL IT

I`d like to refer to the film you wrote Fast and Furious! I agree that there rules European and Asian Cars but, have you noticed that in each of them the AMERICAN MUSCLE is at the end of the film and is in the most important scene of the film, so EUROPEAN AND ASIAN "TOY CARS" TAKE THE MAIN PART IN THE FILM BUT AMERICAN CARS RULES AS USUALL

Bossnutt · « **Reply #7 on:** December 02, 2007, 09:47:40 AM »

I have to admit when I saw your thread I got excited.

http://www.venicewhaler.com/fastcars.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car

This one should help alot. It has ALOT of different sites to go to.

http://www.chiff.com/recreation/autos.htm

gieniu · « **Reply #8 on:** December 07, 2007, 01:52:41 PM »

Gentelmen, Gentelmen, why haven`t you written to me for such a long time!! huge thanks for the sites and inforamtion you`ve sent me, but don`t be so mean:-) GIVE ME MORE, IF YOU ONLY CAN! please be more lavish with your great experience and information

what is more, my dream is to posses such car like one of American Muscle! so, Thierry, you have written that I can buy such car for the price of VW GOLF GT, but what about buing the car for, shall we say, for $15000, is it possible to find such car and have it to ride, and not put a lot of money in it? if you can write sth more, I`d be gratefull!! thanks a lot!!!

Thierry · « **Reply #9 on:** December 07, 2007, 02:29:05 PM »

All depends what kind of muscle car you are looking for. Bossnut was selling hers for $2.000. I don't see the ad on the site anymore so maybe it's sold. You can find cheap ones like hers with a V8 and lots of power. For $15 000 you would certainly get something interesting but I can't say how much the final cost would be with the shipping, taxes, inspection and all other expenses reuired to be able to drive it in Poland. Germany is probably the European country with the most Mustangs for sale so maybe it would be cheaper for you to buy one.
I had a 1969 302 V8 Mustang. I purchased it in France about 10 years ago for about $6.000. It was in great shape and even if the value is now higher I am quite sure you can find one for that price for a correct price.
I can find you many links on where to buy Mustangs in Europe so if you are interested let me know and I will look in my bookmarks

Here is another website with lots of information about all muscle cars:
http://www.musclecarclub.com/main.shtml

gieniu · « **Reply #10 on:** March 08, 2008, 10:29:24 AM »

welcome,
I know that I haven`t been a often guest here, but a lot has happened in my life recently! till the end of may I sholud have finished my work, and now, I`m going to start writing the first chapter, which contains the history of muscle cars! Thanks a lot for the sites you`ve sent me, though I need more

you know, I`m a little greedy:) but seriously speaking, if you are so kind and help me to find the sites that will contain the very beginning of cars including the FORD T as well!

I`d be very grateful for help,
C U

Soaring · « **Reply #11 on:** March 08, 2008, 03:39:01 PM »

Before you write your history of the Mustang, understand that it has been written many times, so your material will most likely not be fresh. At any rate, review this article before you start.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=93320

gieniu · « **Reply #12 on:** March 09, 2008, 05:57:36 AM »

true, though I`m writing the history of all Muscle cars! so I need the history of all of them!!

Soaring · « **Reply #13 on:** March 09, 2008, 06:12:06 AM »

Then just research muscle cars on the internet. If you need books, then buy them off the internet. The internet is your library. If your professor is too old and stupid to understand that, then enroll in another course where the prof is intelligent and up to date.

gieniu · « **Reply #14 on:** March 09, 2008, 08:00:46 AM »

luckily, my profesor is a cool guy

he accepts the data from the net! though, I hope you`ll help me to explore the sites connected with the history of muscle cars, and you`ll give me a helping hand

gieniu · « **Reply #15 on:** April 03, 2008, 03:10:39 PM »

heeeeeloooo, Gentelmen, where are you??

I hope you will help me in my work!! I`d be gratefull if you could help me with gathering the data connecting with NASCAR! what is it? how does it work? what cars were the most imoprtant? and why? It`ll be the great helping - hand for me!
thanks very much

Soaring · « **Reply #16 on:** April 03, 2008, 04:45:14 PM »

Well, to start with, you need a list of the cars that were considered muscle cars so you can look those up individually for your research.
http://musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-definition.shtml

gieniu · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2008, 05:29:49 AM »

hi! Folks (I hope it isn`t a negative expression

) for you! I have a litlle problem! I`ve finished two chapters of my work where I described the whole history of Muscle Cars, though, I have to present the very beginning of automobile in the world:( could you recomend me any interesiting webs or maybe the net-book where I could find some information from the very beginning to the years 1950s! Help is really nice to see here

as a appreciation I dedicate my work to ale the fans of Muscle Cars! :-) I`m waiting for suggestions!! so long, Folks:-)

66GTKFB · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2008, 11:06:06 AM »

You might try 'Ford, The Men and the Machine' by Robert Lacey. It's a history of the Ford family, their cars and the industry, with a lot of references. Keep in mind that Henry was into racing before he built cars for a living.
Where are you located in Poland? My family's roots are in Gorlice, South East of Krakow.
Jim

gieniu · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2008, 02:24:08 PM »

Hi Jim!! so You know, I live about 230 km from Cracov!! I`ll remember what you said! if you were so kind, and know, if you know:-D where can I find such books like I wrote earlier in my previous post!!
Gieniu

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