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brakes..suspension??
« on: July 28, 2008, 09:27:57 PM »
i just got a deal on a complete front disc conversion and grab a trac suspension...picked it and a new fuel tank and head liner for 650..

my question is has anyone ever installed this kit?

http://johnsmustang.com/Catalog-2275.html

is it pretty much self explanitory??

it is for an auto car...which i plan to change to also(currently 3speed)..
any suggestions on trans?...AOD c-4 c-6?

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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 05:06:53 PM »
Do you still have the 289 in that bad boy?  If so, the Aod will get you the most gas mileage on the freeway.  The C4 and C6 are basically the same automatic transmission, but the C6 has heavier more durable components but robs power. 
C6 everything is bigger, bell is big converter is huge etc.. This tranny works perfect behind a BBF and Trucks, but in a classic with a 289 or even a 408, it robs all the power and they weigh about 50lbs more than a C4.  I would look at getting an AOD. 




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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 08:51:37 PM »
anyone make an aod swap like the ones for the 5 speed swap?

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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2008, 09:33:38 PM »
1 more thing..
whats the difference between the 67 front brakes and the 68..
apparently the brakes i bought were for a 68 and i have a 67...
what am i going to have to do to make them work if anything?

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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2008, 11:52:46 PM »
67 disc brakes are 65-66 disc brakes - 68 disc brakes are 69-70 disc brakes. 67 front drum brakes are 68 thru 70 drum brakes. That's the simple answer. 68 discs should work but there's always the unexpected.
Jim

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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 04:32:16 AM »
Here's some information on the AOD.
http://www.themustangshop.com/c4toaod.cfm

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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 07:55:42 AM »
67 disc brakes are 65-66 disc brakes - 68 disc brakes are 69-70 disc brakes. 67 front drum brakes are 68 thru 70 drum brakes. That's the simple answer. 68 discs should work but there's always the unexpected.
Jim

so basically since i have a 67 with drum brakes and this was meant as a 68 bolt up drum to disc conversion ...you are saying i'll be good?

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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 11:02:01 AM »
To be truthful, I don't know. However, two years ago I helped a friend install power disc brakes from a 67 Cougar into a 67 Mustang. That's when we found out about the 'similarities' and 'fits' between years. Being that the 67 and 68 drum set-ups are the same, I would assume that the disc brakes would be a bolt up. There are several areas that might prove to be difficult but not impossible to overcome: pedals - 67 disc and 68 disc are different but aftermarket pedals are mostly the same; proportioning valve - early 67 valves were located at the rear axle, late 67 and all 68 are located at the distribution block near the master cylinder, yours should be part of the kit and the lines are pre-bent are made accordingly; disc to spindle - should bolt up using the same holes as drum; power brake master cylinder - we needed to drill an additional hole because the power uses a stud at the bottom as an additional attaching point; distribution block - some use one bolt and a key slot, others use two bolts; vacuum from intake manifold - had to find the correct fitting only because we were going for a concourse restoration (not a problem).
Bottom line - go for it.
Jim

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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 09:32:15 PM »
To be truthful, I don't know. However, two years ago I helped a friend install power disc brakes from a 67 Cougar into a 67 Mustang. That's when we found out about the 'similarities' and 'fits' between years. Being that the 67 and 68 drum set-ups are the same, I would assume that the disc brakes would be a bolt up. There are several areas that might prove to be difficult but not impossible to overcome: pedals - 67 disc and 68 disc are different but aftermarket pedals are mostly the same; proportioning valve - early 67 valves were located at the rear axle, late 67 and all 68 are located at the distribution block near the master cylinder, yours should be part of the kit and the lines are pre-bent are made accordingly; disc to spindle - should bolt up using the same holes as drum; power brake master cylinder - we needed to drill an additional hole because the power uses a stud at the bottom as an additional attaching point; distribution block - some use one bolt and a key slot, others use two bolts; vacuum from intake manifold - had to find the correct fitting only because we were going for a concourse restoration (not a problem).
Bottom line - go for it.
Jim

appreciate all the help...
the brake kit i acquired actually has a new pedal ...hell it came with everything except the hard brake lines...no biggy i am re-doing those anyhow...

as soon as it gets back from the bodyshop its time for me to get to work...never put a car together with all new stuff...should be a good time actually...just hope the furnace is in the garage by then...its going to take me the rest of the summer and most of the winter to get this thing done if not longer i am sure...

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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 09:48:40 PM »
A few winters ago, I had a small electric heater sitting about 4 feet from me in the closed garage that kept my fingers from freezing as I was doing some brake work.  That pain just comes with the territory.  It's amazing though, that fingers with grease on them seem to get colder than clean fingers.   ;D  I usually have a  beer going in the summer though.  And some loud assed C&W music blaring from my stereo. 

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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 10:13:03 PM »
A few winters ago, I had a small electric heater sitting about 4 feet from me in the closed garage that kept my fingers from freezing as I was doing some brake work.  That pain just comes with the territory.  It's amazing though, that fingers with grease on them seem to get colder than clean fingers.   ;D  I usually have a  beer going in the summer though.  And some loud assed C&W music blaring from my stereo. 

spent many days on a cold garage floor in the winter with a torpedo heater blowing...hell i have a 40,000 btu propane torpedo heater in the garage right now...
but long story short the ole lady wants an addition on the house and part of the deal was me getting the old furnace for the garage..
as far as summer...yeah budweiser and some country..i'm a redneck

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Re: brakes..suspension??
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 10:23:53 PM »
You sound like a down home good ol' boy 8baller.  If the ol' lady insists you have some comfort with putting in the heater in your garage, then give her a kiss and thank her.  Damn, we gotta keep the wimmen happy, don't we? 

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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2008, 10:51:29 PM »
You sound like a down home good ol' boy 8baller.  If the ol' lady insists you have some comfort with putting in the heater in your garage, then give her a kiss and thank her.  Damn, we gotta keep the wimmen happy, don't we? 

down home good ol' boy here..
favorite time of the year is coming up...take a week vaca. every year and go to the inlaws to stay in their cabin and fish...cabin is kinda like laura ingles on little house on the prairie...no electric or running water....just a pond 15 feet away from the front door to go fishing in the morning

 

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