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Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« on: July 31, 2008, 11:45:34 AM »
 A member from the French section has a problem with his automatic transmission from his 69 Mustang after being stored in his garage for a while. Here is the symptoms:
When in drive position, the car stays stuck in first gear.
When in 1st position and shifted to 2nd, it goes to the next gear.
From 2nd to drive it stays in second and if the car slows down, it goes back to first gear and won't shift again.
The reverse is working fine.
Do you have any idea what could be wrong?

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 08:06:11 PM »
Obviously, there are a few things wrong.  The bands need tightening and the fluid and filter needs changing. Since he is overseas, and probably not able to take it to a Ford savvy shop, have him drain the fluids, replace the old with new and see if that helps.  He will also have to drain the converter.  If he does not know how to do that, then tell him to get back.  Question.....and I think we talked about this before....  Can he get the correct ATF fluid for that tranny?  Does he have enough mechanical sense to tighten the bands.  We can tell him how if he doesn't. 

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2008, 01:04:54 PM »
Thanks. He seems happy with your explanations.

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2008, 04:16:54 PM »
No he is not  ;D He has no idea how to tighten the bands. Is this a big job?

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2008, 04:59:55 PM »
Glen has a link on adjusting C4 bands in the FAQ section.
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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2008, 05:33:07 PM »
 I forgot we have almost everything right here. Thanks.

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2008, 07:10:24 PM »
Can he read English?  If not, the FAQ section won't do him much good unless you translate for him.  Yeah, as Jim said, there is a "how-to" article in the FAC section under transmissions. 

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2008, 11:46:12 AM »
 No he can't read English and I have to translate everything  :)
He told me there is no bolts on the side of his transmission and he thinks it's a FMX. I explained him how to tell which one he has but he didn't reply yet.
 I searched the web about adjusting the bands on a FMX and didn't find anything other than a forum post where it says the bands have to be tightened from inside the transmission. Is that correct?

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2008, 02:29:36 PM »
Yes and no.  The rear band can be adjusted from the outside, but is a pain in the Ass.    He may as well just pull the pan and adust them both from inside the tranny.  Here's how, but you don't need to translate all of this.  Since he will be adjusting the front and the rear at the same time, you can  leave out all that stuff about putting the pan back on at the end of the front adjustment explanation.
And, if he really has an FMX and not a C4, he will need to use  Dexron Fluid.

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FRONT BAND ADJUSTMENT

When it is necessary to adjust the front band of the transmission, perform the following procedure:

Drain the transmission fluid and remove the oil pan, fluid filter screen, and clip. The same transmission fluid may be reused if it is filtered through a 100-mesh screen before being installed. Only transmission fluid in good condition should be used.

Clean the pan and filter screen and remove the old gasket.

Loosen the front servo adjusting screw locknut.

Special band adjusting wrenches are recommended to do this operation correctly and quickly.

Pull back the actuating rod and insert a 1/4 inch spacer bar between the adjusting screw and the servo piston stem. Tighten the adjusting screw to 10 inch lbs torque. Remove the spacer bar and tighten the adjusting screw an additional 3/4 turn. Hold the adjusting screw fast and tighten the locknut securely 20-25 ft. lbs.

Install the transmission fluid filter screen and clip. Install the pan with a new pan gasket.

Refill the transmission to the FULL mark on the dipstick. Start the engine, run for a few minutes, shift the selector lever through all positions, and place it in Park. Recheck the fluid level again and add fluid to the proper level if necessary.

REAR BAND ADJUSTMENT

The rear band of the FMX transmission may be adjusted by any of the methods given below. On most cars, the basic external band adjustment is satisfactory. The internal band adjustment procedure may be done when the external adjustment procedure cannot be done correctly. On certain cars with a console floor shift, the entire console, shift lever and linkage will have to be removed to gain access to the rear band external adjusting screw.

REAR BAND EXTERNAL ADJUSTMENT

The procedure for adjusting the rear band externally is as follows:

Locate the external rear band adjusting screw on the transmission case, clean all dirt from the threads, and coat the threads with light oil.

The adjusting screw is located on the upper right side of the transmission case. Access is often through a hole in the front floor to the right of center under the carpet.

Loosen the locknut on the rear band external adjusting screw.

Using the special preset torque wrench shown, tighten the adjusting screw until the handle clicks at 10 ft. lbs. If the adjusting screw is tighter than 10 ft. lbs., loosen the adjusting screw and retighten to the proper torque.

Back off the adjusting screw 11/2 turns. Hold the adjusting screw steady while tightening the locknut to the proper torque 35-40 ft. lbs. [cf2]Severe damage may result if the adjusting screw is not backed off exactly 11/2 turns.

REAR BAND INTERNAL ADJUSTMENT

The rear band is adjusted internally as follows:

Drain the transmission fluid. If it is to be reused, pour the fluid through a 100-mesh screen as it drains from the transmission. Reuse the transmission fluid only if it is in good condition.

Remove and clean the pan, fluid filter, and clip.

Loosen the rear servo adjusting locknut.

Pull the adjusting screw end of the actuating lever away from the servo body and insert the spacer tool between the servo accumulator piston and the adjusting screw. [cf2]Be sure the flat surfaces of the tool are placed squarely between the adjusting screw and the accumulator piston. The tool must not touch the servo piston and the handle must not touch the servo piston spring retainer.

Using a torque wrench with an allen-head socket, tighten the adjusting screw to 24 in. lbs torque.

Back off the adjusting screw exactly 11/2 turns. Hold the adjusting screw steady and tighten the locknut securely. Remove the spacer tool.

Install the fluid filter, clip, and pan with a new gasket.

Fill the transmission with the correct amount of fluid.



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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2008, 02:49:34 PM »
 :( It will take me all day to translate all that but thanks  ;)

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2008, 02:55:18 PM »
First, ask him if he really feels comfortable tearing into a transmission he knows nothing about, then if he says he doesn't feel confident, then have him take it to a transmission shop. This is not a job for beginners. 

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2008, 05:27:19 PM »
 Yes, he will probably take the car to a shop but I did the translation and I am sure others will find it useful. Thanks for your help. When I will buy my next Mustang I will make sure it doesn't have a FMX transmission  ;D

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2008, 03:19:19 AM »
The FMX is a tough, tried and true transmission.  It's  just not a C-4 or C-6.  Afterall, how many times do you need to tear into your automatic transmission during the course of a lifetime?  The FMX is more like a C-6 in that it was built for heavy duty use. 

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Re: Automatic transmission not shifting in drive position
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2008, 10:10:35 PM »
OK....well I'm not sure if this is the same problem I'm having or not....And i need to get some info so I kinda know WHAT to do...My 1995 auto trans shifts into reverse fine, but I can't get it to shift into drive...I'm nor exactly sure if its going into 1st or 2nd (I'm not very car savy, If I put it into those gears should I be able to at least move forward when I hit the gas or no? If yall could help that would be great...cause I'm kinda at my wits end here...

 

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