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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2009, 08:36:12 PM »
Hello, Mike
I located a carburetor shop in NM that is claiming to be the best,
http://www.ponycarburetors.com/ and they have some great reading info under technical questions.
I am having some difficulties myself and I am thinking of going back to a stock Autolite 4100 (1.08)
With the original manifold.
Hope all turns out well
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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2009, 05:39:28 AM »
thanks Jim, i'm convinced. the right carb for the right application is the way to go. I will go with the 1.08. I should get it by next week and i'll post my results. I cant wait to have a normal running car. 
Yeah, it is hard to convince people that larger is not better on these old 289's.  480 CFM is what the A code mustangs came out with from the factory.  Anything bigger is just simply too much and will cause wash down.  In other words, unburnt fuel that is costly and does not help add power. 

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2009, 09:13:51 PM »
I should be getting my new rebuild 4100 480 cfm tomorrow weds. I cant wait to be running normal again. Hope all goes well. Next, GT fog lights and rally pac. I did remove and painted satin black the grill. I think the fogs with the metal horizontal trim on the grill as a background is too mutch. The fogs should stand out nicelly on the black.

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2009, 10:30:37 PM »
Yeah, Jim's right.  The engineers who built that little 289 knew which venturi carburetor to put on it.  That 1.12  venturi is a huge carb for that engine. 

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Re: 66 carb prob? Distributor vacuum lines?
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2009, 03:20:37 PM »
Ok, got may new 4100 1.08. So far so good until i had to install the vacuum advance line from the distri. to the carb. The male adapter on the line is not fitting in the carb. Is it me or is this actually smaller. If it is the same size and it's just a matter of getting it in right,i'll keep trying. But it looks as if the female on the carb is just a tad smaller. Are these different between the 1.12 that i had and this 1.08???

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2009, 03:29:21 PM »
The fittings and ports should be the same thread size. What's the part number of your new carb? It should be stamped on the mounting ear just under the 1.08 marking, three or four characters - year number, car model (Z = Mustang, A = full size Ford, D = Fairlane) and specific model, A, B, C, AD, etc. Are you using the solid tube vacumm line to the distributor (without any rubber hose)?
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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2009, 03:34:09 PM »
C5ZF-C, solid tube no rubber.

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Re: 66 carb prob? vacuum advance thread on carb??
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2009, 04:37:22 PM »
i just removed the carb, and one of the walls on the carb's threads are flatter than the other side. The opening is not circular, kind of flat on one side, i guess that might have some to do with the fitting not attempting to go in. Can these be re-threaded?? on the carb???

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2009, 04:41:16 PM »
Yes, you can tap it.   Take the carb to a parts store, and have them fit you with the correct tap.  A tap is a tool that makes new threads.  Take the line with you too so they can match the type and size of threads.  There are metric and SAE threads, so be sure to get the right one.  Put the tap in the hole and slowly turn it clockwise until it bottoms out, then slowly turn it counter-clockwise until it is out.   Make sure you get all the shavings out of the carburetor by washing it out with carburetor cleaner.  Then try your male end of the line in the carb. 

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2009, 04:50:33 PM »
I removed the vacuum advance line. i'll take that with me as well. So a parts store?? ok, man this never ends. But i guess thats the beauty of old cars... we can actually work on them. Thanks

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2009, 04:59:02 PM »
Yeah, automotive parts stores like AutoZone have those tools. You don't want to buy an entire set as from Sears, so just go get the one tap you need.  You may never use it again in your life.  I have a complete set that I paid a million dollars for, and have used may two of them over the last 10 years.  And, I work on my cars a lot.  Oh, and while you are at the parts store, get a roll of teflon thread tape.  Wrap some of that around the male end to keep it from leaking, especially since you have to tap. 

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2009, 10:47:59 PM »
Ok... 1/8" pipe tap did the job. I installed the carb, and man it runs better than ever. Slight adjustmant of the fast idle scew and that was it. Smooth, no smoke. I actually come inside the house from the garage and i don't smell like gas. Starts right away when cold, and my problem of starting after the car was warm is a problem of the past. I have let it sit for 15, 30 minutes, 2 hours and it starts right away. Thank you all for your help an input. Soaring and 66 GTK i would buy you guys a beer if a could. Thanks again, MIke

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2009, 11:01:14 PM »
Thanks, but sorry, I don't drink beer anymore, I'm now a wino - uh, wine connoisseur, well CRW (cheap red wine), we grow our own in California.
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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2009, 11:38:23 PM »
You can buy me a beer.  Look at my avatar, and down at the bottom you will see the word beer.  Click on that and buy me a beer.   ;D Jim doesn't get one because he has been a bad boy.   ;D

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2009, 11:56:53 PM »
Yeah, bad to the bone. Wine's better for you anyway. Helps you 'tune' better.
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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2009, 12:03:24 AM »
Yeah, bad to the bone. Wine's better for you anyway. Helps you 'tune' better.
Jim
You are going to be getting a beer in your avatar soon you rogue.  You can use the moolah for your cheap red wine if you wish.   ;D

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2009, 12:39:34 PM »
I did get a 10 pack of 'Beers of the World' for Christmas and one of them was 'Chile Beer' from Mexico (via Arizona) www.chilebeer.com . It had a jalapeno pepper in it. Not bad. In my off-road days, a pre-breakfast pick-me-up was a bottle of beer with Snappy Tom (or several dashes of Tabasco sauce) poured in it. It takes the chill out of the morning.
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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2009, 12:46:01 PM »
Rim a glass with lime and salt. Ice, a corona, squeeze of lime and tabasco. do the same with a miller lite and it will take away the lite in the miller... NOS trunk release mechanism. New in the box, all instructions. what would this go for on ebay???

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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2009, 04:14:01 PM »
When I do drink beer, it is not 'Lite'. I want real beer.
A reproduction trunk release sells for $50 at NPD. Although I don't recal seeing one on e-bay, a NOS one might go for over $100, just a WAG.
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Re: 66 carb prob? Something else?????????
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2009, 05:11:43 PM »
Thanks for the beer Maykel.  Jim will have a beer logo soon.   ;D

 

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