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66' door speakers
« on: January 16, 2009, 07:12:36 PM »

Has anyone out there installed the factory speaker grills and aftermarket speakers in their doors?

I'm a bit confused.  I bought the aftermarket 4x6" speakers sold by all the vendors and also the factory speaker grills.  Before cutting the doors, I have been studying exactly where to cut and how big an oval to cut.  It's the size of the oval that bothers me.  It seems that the size of the oval is bigger top to bottom than the height of the speaker grill (top to bottom).  It doesn't make sense to me to cut a smaller hole in the door for the oval so that a portion of the speaker is covered by the sheet metal of the door.  I hope I'm making sense....Any advice or input?

Also, Can you tell me exactly where the speakers grills are on the door in inches from the bottom and front of the door?

One more thing. Has anyone tried the duel cone speakers that fit in the original top of dash speaker area?  Do they sound ok?  I am thinking of using the duel cone and 2 speakers on the rear package tray.  Then I don't have to mess with cutting the doors...
Thanks in advance!

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 08:18:52 PM »
I have a 65 with only one speaker in the top of the dash.  Does your 66 have door speakers installed from the factory? 

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2009, 10:50:02 AM »
Hi Soaring,

Last night, I came to the conclusion. not to cut the doors.  I'm going to make it easy on myself and just add a duel cone in the original dash space and 2 - 6x9's in the package tray. I REALLY don't want to cut the doors.  I am the 2nd owner of this pristine mustang and it was killing me to think of cutting anything...
Thanks again for all your help.  I am curious, how do you know so much about these cars? I've read so many other posts from you and your knowledge base is outstanding!

Today my job is to get the rear qtr window unstuck and / or repaired.  I took the side panel off and found several window parts on the floor! Now I have to figure all that out.

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2009, 01:00:43 PM »
A better way is to get kick panel speakers for the front. I got them on my 66 hardtop with a pair of 6X9 speakers in the package tray in the back. The replacement stereo speakers for the center do not have seperation or any type of good frequency response.
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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2009, 04:40:46 PM »
Yeah Mitch, I have the dual cone dash speaker.  I put it in about a year ago, and it sounds 50 times better than the old single cone one did.  I also put a pair of speakers  in the package tray, but since I have the original AM radio, the radio was not strong enough to make them work, so I had to build another package tray.   ;D  I am looking to keep my 65 as original as possible, and yet have  a few mechanical upgrades.  I have a Monte Carlo bar, and Export brace, a 4 row radiator  an overflow tank and Mag 500's.  Other than that, she's stock.  I don't see how anybody gets by with the stock two row radiator.  Mine used to heat up like a sumbitch until I switched to the 4 row. 
If you have a modern radio with some power, then get the kick panel's that have a speaker cutout in them, and go ahead and cut your package tray and put some smaller speakers back there.  The 6X9's won't fit in the metal holes back there.  I forgot what size mine were, but they were round and not oval.  Maybe 6X6 ? ???

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2009, 07:19:57 PM »
I got a pair of Radio Shack 6X9 coax 4 ohm speakers installed with little problem.
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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2009, 10:39:07 PM »
Did you put those in the kick panels Jim? 

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2009, 12:19:58 AM »
The 6X9s are in the package tray. I got a pair of 6 inch dia (I think that's the size) in the kick panels about 4 or 5 years ago. I'm thinking about upgrading the radio to the new released copy of the AM/FM by Custom Auto Sounds. It's a bit further down on the list of things to do.
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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2009, 05:13:48 AM »
Well, on my 65 there is only one 6X9 hole, and that is right in the middle of the package tray.  Then there are two round holes on each side that are definitely not 6X9.  The more I am finding out about my 65 the more I think it is a 64 1/2, but the build date is like March of 1965. 

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2009, 12:40:58 PM »
It's not a perfect fit but the two holes either side can be used. Drilling up from the trunk was the only way to get the four (times two) mounting holes in and (I just looked) I used two of the existing mounting hole in the center location for tywraps the wire to the other speaker. I've seen a setup on a 65 resto-mod (ugh) hardtop that had five speakers across the package tray, two six inch dia (I guess) on the outside, then two 6X9 and a sub-woofer in the center. Fortunately, it was not in operation.
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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2009, 02:05:03 PM »
Hi Jim and Soaring,
I've decided to get the Kenwood in-dash duel cone speaker for the front and 2- 6x9's for the back package tray.  I'm going to mount the speakers in the holes on either side of the center hole and drill form underneath.  I'm going to cut holes in the cardboard package tray and then lay speaker cloth on top of the package tray.  I'll spray the speaker cloth with a light coat of the emberglo vinyl dye.  When done, no one will even know there is a stereo set up in the car...not that I have to worry about theft..the car is always with me or in the garage.
I'm not worried about separation on the front speakers because I find that I tend to have the back speakers a little louder than the fronts anyway. 
The secret to good sound is really not so much the speakers as much as it is the power (watts) of the radio. This setup will sound just fine.  I'll let you know after they are in in about a month.

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2009, 04:51:28 PM »
Yeah, be sure to get back with pictures. 

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2009, 05:03:04 PM »
Loud is not better and does not substitute for quality - except to cover up an exhaust.
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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2009, 06:15:31 PM »
Jim, I'm sure you know this but for others,...power gives good clean full sound at low volumes..I'm an old hippie but my ears like softer sounds now!
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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2009, 11:55:40 AM »
Actually it does not. I have an old Scott stereo receiver that has a 50w per channel outbut but has a frequency response of DC to 100k cps. That extended frequency response was to enhance overtones and it did have excellent reproduction qualities. It's been relagated to the garage now. I've gone thru several receivers since then and the current 500w 5.1 system does not have the same sound quality. As to what is used in cars, 'loud' covers up road and exhaust noises. Quality is sacrificed for volume. It's practical.
Oh, I spent my 'hippie' days in the aerospace industry designing tracking stations and satellites. 
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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2009, 05:37:07 PM »
Mitch, if you don't put the speaker covers on, someone is going to throw something on that package tray and puncture your speaker.  How about just spraying the emberglow over the tray, then mount the covers.  It will look good, and you won't run the risk of ruining a good speaker. 

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2009, 06:46:17 PM »
Good point Soaring.  That could happen. I'll have to think about this.  Funny of all the restoration things I've had to think about....the stereo is making me scratch my head the most!

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2009, 06:56:45 PM »
Or, you might want to consider putting a black cloth over the entire package tray, then cut out the holes for the speakers and mount the covers over that.  I really can't picture how that would look though. That may look like a south of the border thing. 

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Re: 66' door speakers
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2009, 02:14:00 PM »
Here's a picture of my 66 hardtop with a pair of 6 X 9 speakers mounted in the package tray.

 

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