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Jerry Baker
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« on: May 17, 2005, 11:47:36 PM » |
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I have a question on the 1969 mustang and its motor.
did they all come out with Winsdors or did they have clevelands as well ?
How do you find out the motor you have ?
I know the M code is a 351 4v but can it be either or is it a winsdor
Please help
Thanks
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racedraper
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2005, 05:50:59 AM » |
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the easiest way is look at the valve covers. windsors are flat on top were as clevlands are not. is itr 2 barrels? I have a cleveland 2v i will post pic of the valve cover to so what it should look like. also the intake is wide.
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Thierry
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2005, 08:08:34 AM » |
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I am not sure but I think the Cleveland was first produced in 1970 but here is an easy way to see the difference:
Windsor 351 V8 Engine
- Valve cover is held in place by 6 bolts.
- Radiator hose connects to water neck on the front of the intake manifold.
Cleveland 351 V8 engine
- Valve cover is held in place by 8 bolts..
- Radiator hose is a 90 degree hose that connects directly to the top front of the engine block.
If you have a picture Racedraper, it might be very usefull.
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racedraper
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2005, 05:40:49 PM » |
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here is my 351 cleveland. look at the valve covers and water jacket like Thierry said...
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racedraper
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2005, 05:42:28 PM » |
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some more pics
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racedraper
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2005, 05:44:42 PM » |
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another. like my carb and manifold combo. It was my wifes X-mas present last year.
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Jerry Baker
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2005, 06:00:18 PM » |
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I want to thank you all I think I have the 351 cleveland, but I will go to the paint shop Friday and do some counting, and looking.
You are about the best bunch of people I have meet on the internet, since I have asked this same question for about 5 years now and just now got a answer.
Thanks
I will post pic of my motor when I get back
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racedraper
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2005, 06:18:47 PM » |
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your very welcome. if your interested i got the edelbrock manifold and 600 cfm carb for 425. i got if P.A.W.
WWW.pawengineparts.com
If you need anything else just post it and we will come
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Thierry
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2005, 07:18:59 PM » |
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I'm glad we could help. Racedraper, your pictures were very usefull.
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Thierry
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2005, 07:28:47 PM » |
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I just found an interesting website about the 351 Cleveland. There is good chances your engine is a Windsor or it was replaced later as they started the production of this engine in 1970. http://www.boss351.org/engine.htm
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Jerry Baker
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2005, 06:14:23 PM » |
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ok guys i went to the body shop today and yes its the winsdor 4v ( m code ). But thanks guys for all the help i counted the value cover bolts and it had 6.
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racedraper
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2005, 11:10:01 AM » |
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somethimes I wish I had a windser, only because you can find alot of bolt ons unlike a cleveland and when you do find something there expensive. As for valve covers there are only two choices out there chrome or stockers.
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Jerry Baker
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2005, 01:27:59 PM » |
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Oh ya I have seen that already. My wife has a 1970 fastback with a 429, I cant find anything to dress it up with and in all the books you find the big blocks are just left out. Some one needs to start a company for the big block fords, that would make a killling.
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Jerry Baker
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2005, 02:12:38 PM » |
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Oh I never did send the photo of my 351 4v Wins.
She needs alot of cleaning but she runs well very well
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Thierry
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2005, 07:08:56 PM » |
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It might need some cleaning for some but that's an engine that lived and lives, not a queen trailer :-D
Not that I have anything against them but cars where concieved to be driven and not only to be exposed
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