Topic: 289 block and C4 trans question

[65falcon]

i just picked up a 289 block and caps. casting code is C5AE-6015-E 7A12

The couple different sites that I have looked at have all told me the same thing:
289  HiPo, cast on Jan 12 1967. Would this be correct?

I dont know much about mustangs but were the HiPo engines the ones used in "K-code" cars? and if so, does that mean this block is worth more then the 40 bucks i paid for it? (was also told it was 30 over already)

I plan on bolting it to a C4 trans and droppin it in my falcon. my trans question involves bellhousings. the C4 trans I have now is currently bolted to a 200 I6(both from a 68 falcon). I know im gonna have to get a new bellhousing(6-bolt right?), should i only be looking for bellhousings for that year motor,or are there multiple bellhousings that will fit?

any help will be appreciated. Thanks

[Soaring]

All 289's shared the same block, so those casting numbers don't tell you if it is a Hipo or not.  It's when they put the guts into that block that it became a hipo over the rest of the 289's.  Here is some informamtion for you to learn from.
http://www.midcomustang.com/mustanghipo.shtml

As far as the C4, all bellhousings had 6 bolts if built after August of 1964.  It had 5 if built before that date.

[66GTKFB]

There were four different 6 bolt 289CID blocks, C5AE-6015-E (65-67), C6AE-6015-C (66-67), C8OE-6015-A (67) and C8AE-6015-B (68). All 289CID HP blocks were C5AE-6015-E but not all C5AE-6015-E blocks were HP. That block was the standard block for all of 65 Mustangs and was used into 67. All HP blocks had their VIN stamped in the lower right hand front side just above the oil pan. Your date code, 7A12, indicates a casting date of January 12, 1967 which means a 1967 application. The actual engine assembly date is on an extension to the left of the distributor that has a long bolt from the water pump going into it.
Jim

[Soaring]

Well, he has a 65 block, not any year thereafter.  The way to tell if it is a hipo engine is to tear it down and check the crank, rods, pistons, etc. 

[66GTKFB]

Read the original post - the C5AE-6015-E block was cast on January 12, 1967.
Read my statement - the C5AE-6015-E block was used from 1965 to 1967.
Read more of my statement - all HP 289 blocks WILL have a VIN number stamped on the block.
Tearing down the engine "just" to see the inside WITHOUT that VIN is a waste of time.
And a 6 cylinder transmission is not strong enough to handle a 289.
Bottom line - get a C4 that came from a V8. That also solves the bellhousing question.
Jim   

[Soaring]

OK, so you are saying if the VIN is stamped into the block then it is a K code? Again, all 289 blocks started out the same in 1965.  There is no difference between a K code block and a C code block for 1965.   It would be helpful to have the VIN where you say it is stamped.   
http://www.hipomustang.com/default2.asp?page=search

[6mustang6]

I thought the only difference in the bottom end was the main caps were alittle stronger basically?

[66GTKFB]

The block is the same, no factory alterations. The special components are what makes the difference. Many of these components are counterfitted or altered from other Ford parts. You are correct the the main bearing caps are different, and add to that these block items: crank; rods; pistons; cam; lifters; timing chain; timing gears; and an added counterweight. About the only major component that is used on a HP engine that is used on other 289 4V engines is the intake manifold, the rest are special.
Jim

[Soaring]

Is there an echo in here?    I'd like to have a "Mexican" block with the added nickel content, then add all the guts of the hipo. 

[66GTKFB]

Echo (echo - echo). The same quest exists for VW 1600cc engines - Mexican cases, as well as Mexican Ford blocks, stronger blocks/cases because of a different metalurgy. 
Jim

[Soaring]

Yeah, more nickel content= stronger block, but has nothing to do with a K code Mustang engine.  I would  just like to have a Mexican block with all the K code engine guts. 
But, then again, I would have to upgrade the Chassis.  Yeller is just too old to make a bastard out of her.  She is a proud classic. 

[65falcon]

thanks for all the info. so, k-code or not, 289 parts will fit this block. i plan on building a fairly stock short block with 289 crank/rods and some flat top pistons. not sure on the cam cause im not sure on the heads

and as far as the trans goes, i can just get a bell housing from any post -64 trans?

[Soaring]

As long as it is 6 bolt.. 

[66GTKFB]

A C4 from a 6 cylinder engine will NOT be strong enough for any 289. This is my second reference to this. You need a V-8 type C4.
Jim