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type of paint
« on: January 05, 2009, 09:17:00 AM »
Hi Guys my name is John I am restoring a 1967 Mustang coup from the ground up. Right now I am replacing the D/S frame rail in the front. I need to know what kind of paint ford used in the engine compartment. Also what type of paint for the undercarriage I want to stay as close as possible to the way the vehicle came from the factory. This vehicle will be a driver but will go into shows so I want to be as close as possible to factory. Thank you.
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Re: type of paint
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2009, 12:46:45 PM »
First - welcome.
Now the bad news. The type of paint you want is no longer available for a couple of reasons, EPA regulations and new paint developments. The best you can do is to replicate color and texture of the types of paint the Ford used as well as the procedure.
The undercarriage was primed usually with a red primer although black and gray were used. All were flat textured. Small quantities of leftover body paint were added to the primer so the actual colors was inconsistant. This primer was painted over the entire undercarriage and front end from the doors forward with nothing installed. Then the doors and trunk lid were installed and the car was painted the final body color. The engine compartment was then painted semi-gloss black with the painter standing on the car's assembly rack. This limited what got painted. The transmission tunnel, for example, was painted only as was as the painter could reach and overspray was common. This also applied to the strut rod bracket as well, the top was black, the underside was primer. It was sloppy so don't be too concerned with accuracy.
Some red primer paints you can use:
R-M - A1787
Ditzler/PPG - 13075
Dupont - 4735
Krylon primer in a can is sometimes used.
As to the black: the biggest mistake is to use too glossy of a paint. Semi-gloss or satin paints vary in 'sheen' and flat is too flat.
Recomended is - PPG DAR9000 with DX685 flattener. You will need the DX685 specifications sheet to mix the flattener and catalyst according to eggshell which is about 30-35% gloss.
If that gets to be past your budget, try www.eastwood.com but don't use their underhood black as it is too glossy.
Jim

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 08:24:42 AM »
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the information It will come in handy.
Johnskull

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2009, 06:46:32 PM »
 The red oxide was only used on the San Jose built cars in 65. If your car was built in Dearborn or Metuchan it would be semigloss black on the underside. So, if your vin starts out with 5F or 5T, and not 5R, semigloss black would be correct, along with being a look that you prefer. Personally, I think that the black looks better. It's also much easier to maintain.

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 09:22:00 PM »
Thanks for the information on the semi gloss black paint. I will paint it that color. I am still working on the sheet metal at this time. Then I will clean the eng. compartment and paint it. Thanks again for the information.
John

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2009, 01:08:06 PM »
San Jose built Mustangs in 1966 used all kinds of primer, black, gray and red. I had a March 66 build Fastback (it speaks with an Australian accent now) that had red primer. I used a red Krylon primer for almost a perfect match. My two Oct 65 San Jose build 66 Mustangs have a dark gray almost black primer so there is no consistency. Ford was frugal and did not throw away old paint or small leftover batches. They mixed them with the primer so any color was possible. In most cases, it has a flat texture, not semi-gloss.
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Re: type of paint
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2009, 10:52:39 AM »
Thanks, for the advice. I am thinking of it too.

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2009, 04:53:09 PM »
wat bout 66 from dearborne? wat color was the undercarriage? also wat did ford call the ivy green? or was it ivy metallic green? im goin with acrylic enamal

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2009, 05:57:15 PM »
The undercarriage is semi-gloss black or any other myriad combinations becase like Jim said, they didn't waste paint so mixed all sorts of colors for the undercarriage, but I would go with semi-gloss black.  Google 1966 Mustang colors to see the original factory colors.  I'm watching Football.   ;D

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2009, 06:32:29 PM »
Here is a good site. Click on the color name of your choice and you will see pictures of Mustangs with that color:
http://mustangattitude.com/mustang/1966clrpaint.shtml

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2009, 10:48:23 PM »
awesome thanks. is 120 too much for a gallon of acrylic enamel

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2009, 02:29:12 PM »
"is 120 too much to pay for a gallon of enamel"  In my opinion yes, but I remember payiny $15.00 a gallon way back. Check out Bill on ebay, he'll give you a good price for mustang custom mixed colors from the 60s. He sells PPG paint, never had a problem using his products. Last I bought was '65 vintage burgandy, think i paid about 65 delivered

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2009, 08:25:44 PM »
well, can he make a specific color? also was the ivy green metallic or no?

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2009, 09:30:04 PM »
I'de say he can make any color, contact him and see if he can fix you up

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2009, 05:36:26 AM »
well i went to his business website n theres no contact info

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2009, 09:08:33 AM »
try this email   wbmesq@hotmail.com

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2009, 04:00:12 PM »
well on the 66, was the ivy green metallic?

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Re: type of paint
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Re: type of paint
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2009, 12:23:30 AM »
i would use a 2k urethane over enamel, enamels are scratch resistant but chip easily

imho a base/clear is ideal

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Re: type of paint
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2009, 12:49:47 PM »
i have base n clear on there now n im wanting close to original as possible. anyone know how to take the dash off? n was the interior painted semi-gloss?

 

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