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« on: February 29, 2008, 12:15:13 AM »

i received my afr165, cam, rockers and pushrods, headers, etc today. it was a little chilly since the sun went down. hopefully ill get jump on some of it tomorrow if my back allows if not ill be instructing my buddy.if i can get the cam swapped reinstall the timing cover and torque the heads down and install the intake and acc. he will be making good time :)

maybe ill snap some pics tomorrow if he can get it buttoned up
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« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 02:28:32 PM »

So, you went with the AFR's, huh?  I thought you were a proponent of the GT40's. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 02:49:26 PM »

for a budget swap the gt40 are good but i got a deal i couldn't pass up they definitely out flow the gt40 by a long shot plus they will lighten it up tremendously. ill post pics later on i gotta go pick up a torque wrench for the house

ive got a set pf gt40 here at the house but they have 2 broken bolt in near the water passage soon as i get those drilled im gonna have them milled and and im gonna port them out for the 65 more than likely or ill use them on the vert
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 03:48:52 PM »

ID LIKE TO KNOW HOW THOSE TURN OUT. I WAS THINKING ABOUT GETTING THE AFR 185'S. IV ALSO GOT THE GT-40X HEADS. I HEARD THE 185'S GIVE A LOT MORE HORESE. WELL GOOD LUCK WITH THE INSTALL.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 05:58:27 PM »

Yeah, Stephen is right about the AFR's flowing better than the GT40's, but which AFR heads should you get? The 165's or the 185's?   Well, it depends on your engine and how you have it set-up.  http://www.airflowresearch.com/articles/article025/A25-P1.htm
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 11:06:56 PM »

the 185 are a huge upgrade over the gt40x heads even the 165's are ive got most of it assembled now except for the upper intake and and radiator, and belt now heres a pic after the heads were put in place
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 08:20:38 AM »

im having trouble removing the connections from the back of the upper plenum of my intake. are there any special things i have to do or just keep wrestling with it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 10:31:44 AM »

you talking about vaccum hoses?
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 11:23:28 AM »

thats one thing ive never done but i think thats what they are. there two hoses. one goes to the driver side and the other one goes to the passenger side. the pcv hose doesnt help being in the way. the heads look good by the way.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 11:57:17 AM »

nevermind. i got it. now i just have to remove the lower plenum. i guess i was just beung too cautious because i had never done it before.
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 12:37:44 PM »

your gonna need a fuel line disconnect kit to remove the lines from the fuel rail, its cheap maybe 15 bucks at auto zone advanced etc
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 01:44:26 PM »

ok i will pick one of those up. thanks i didnt know i needed that. now im waiting for my tech book for the torque specs and pattern.
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 09:18:18 PM »

your gonna need a fuel line disconnect kit to remove the lines from the fuel rail, its cheap maybe 15 bucks at auto zone advanced etc
Good info Stephen.  But, I'm afraid your man Ron Paul has to withdraw.  I love his politics, but he is not an electable candidate, obviously. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2008, 01:48:30 AM »

eh hes more electable than mccain i know i wont vote for mccain, its more or less the idea of limited govt, getting rid of the patriot act the real id act etc. etc. its inspiring a generation more or less, the way the govt is supposed to be run just like it was taught to me in school. 

but he did win this year glen ;)




 The Mouse that roared: Why Ron Paul won the election

Well now, Republicans say, we have a nominee.  That may very well be but there was only one clear winner in the confusing GOP nominating contest and it was not John McCain.  The winner was Ron Paul.  And the effects of his win will be felt for years to come.

Ron Paul made a classic political mistake.  He told the truth.  In debate after debate he pointed at his party, his president, his fellow contenders for the GOP nomination, shouting aloud like the little boy in the proverbial story, “they have no clothes” and lo and behold, we looked and they didn’t.  They were all naked.

He showed that the conservative movement has lost its way, its moral authority and its logic.  He showed us that we have become a red team versus blue team.  That since we have decided that this is a political war and all normal rules are suspended, conservatives can do liberal things to win it.  Conservatives can run up big deficits if it helps their side win.  They can dole out needless pork if it elects another “conservative” to congress.  They can go to war if it makes their president look like a leader and wins him another term.

But in the process, Ron Paul showed us, that we have lost our way.  We are no longer conservatives.  We are fighting for power not for principles.  We have become corrupted by the process and the only way back is to retrace our steps and find all the things we discarded along he way.

 Barry Goldwater lighted a similar fire with his Conscience of a Conservative.  Its truth and arguments were so obvious and so honest that one laughed aloud while reading it.  But Goldwater, himself, was doomed to political defeat.  And Ron Paul had no chance to win this election either.  One could see that when he first opened his mouth.

And yet, the words and arguments of Ron Paul are still resonating.  They still hang over this election.  They are haunting and troubling.  They are producing blogs and papers and books and like Goldwater’s revolution they will one day very likely produce their own Ronald Reagan.  And when those heady days happen a small but hearty band of pioneers, who first had the nerve to join him and start shouting from the street, “They aren’t wearing any clothes,” will be able to say that they could see what the country missed.  They were there when history was made.

John McCain and his poorly chosen words, of staying in Iraq a hundred years, have almost guaranteed that he will be the answer to the trivia question, who was the Republican candidate who lost to the ticket that claimed the first woman and black for the presidency?  Another question may very well be, “What other candidate ran that year and launched the movement that has dominated national politics for the last generation?”

And the answer will be Ron Paul.
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